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Has Facebook finally introduced 'who's looking at your profile'? + UPDATE: Facebook respond

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Facebook revamped profiles earlier this week, and launched a bunch of new features, but one of the most surprising things hasn't even been announced - a feature that lets you know who has been clicking on your profile.

Okay, I'm basing this on personal observation, but bear with me. There has been a "friends" box on Facebook profiles for a long time - down on the left hand side of the page under your profile picture and basic information. Previously that small square box was filled with six random friends, and I remember they were random. I'd occasionally hover over one and wonder who the hell it was? Then I'd remember it was Jay from some random holiday 2 years ago. It would pop up with people that I was friends with but never clicked on and had completely forgotten about - it was random - sure and I never particularly noticed a pattern in who turned up there.

No longer so random
Thing is - with the new profiles that list of friends is no longer so random. It now displays 10 friends not six, and you only need to refresh your profile three or four times to see that the same group of people comes up again and again. Out of my 421 friends, the same 15 come up again and again - in fact after refreshing my profile five times I don't get any new faces and after refreshing it ten times it just keeps showing me the same 15 rearranged slightly.

Okay you say - so that's just people you interact with the most, Facebook is just giving you links to people you are most interested in, same as it does with the news feed where it pushes people that you click on and interact with most.

But, no - it isn't. Of those 15 people, 5 or so are people I interact with regularly, the other 10 aren't. And I don't regularly click on their profiles either. Sure once every so often... but there are others I would check much more regularly.

Three I haven't messaged, interacted with or even clicked on for up to six months.

Why do those friends turn up there?
I don't mind remotely, but it kind of makes me wonder why they are there and why Facebook isn't clear about the process that selects those 15 out of my 421 friends. I realise you can make lists of friends which show up in that spot, but I haven't done that.

If it's not public interaction, and it's not random then it's got to be something else. The the most obvious solution is that these are people who click on my profile a lot.

And that's where it becomes a privacy issue.

Privacy issues
As one of my friends said: "these two girls keep turning up on my friends list - but they're not people I interact with on Facebook - so I think they must fancy me.." Just to throw another scenario out there - you can see that your ex has been clicking on your Facebook profile a lot even if neither of you have talked or interacted on there for months.

What's more - it's not just me who can see it - any of my friends visiting my profile can check that out, refresh my page 10 times and find the 15 people who are most interested in me.

Who is that girl you don't know turning up in your partner's top 15 friends - are they checking their profile a lot...?

I'm going to stop with these examples, but you see what I mean. If I'm correct, Facebook is finally releasing information about who is clicking on whose profile, it hasn't announced it, and if it is, then it's an encroachment of privacy.. and it could change how people behave on Facebook, as you would restrict your clicks because you know other people are aware of what you're doing.

If there is some other reason - I would love to know it - please tell me in the comments.

UPDATE:
The Facebook press office emailed me to state that the friends list on the new profile is categorically not down to who is clicking on your profile. According to their statement - it is organised according to who you have had the most public interaction with in the past month and a half.

We quote the Facebook spokesperson:

"The Friend's list default view is now ordered by the amount of public interaction you have with the friends in your network. When you navigate to your friends page you will see up to 50 friends with whom you have had the most public interaction within the past month and a half. These friends are displayed in a random order. The order will change every time you refresh your friends page. An alphabetical ordering of friends is still available by clicking on the second list icon to the right of the "Search friends."

Does that ring true for your experiences? We're still scratching our heads though, because though that makes sense for 10 of the 15 in my friends list, I swear there are at least 1 or 2 I definitely haven't contacted in the past one and a half months...

UPDATE 2: The Response of Readers
(thanks for comments below, these are some more comments from FB and Twitter)

>>"I think you're dead right about new Facebook. definitely some unexpected people showing up in my friends list who would feasibly be looking but I don't have much contact with and have very little "public contact" with anyone who's appearing.
(BTW I am totally showing up on a few girl's profiles that I perv over semi-regularly)"

>> "Oh crap. Super creepy."

>> "one or two people I have actually never spoken to on FB are in my list..."

>> "I didn't find this to be the case on my FB. Entirely random. Only consistent person who came up in 15 refreshes was my husband."

>> "That's entirely untrue. There are a number of people who come up repeatedly with whom I've never interacted with on Facebook, and certainly not in the last month an a half."

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  • PBnJ

    Anyone notice that the 6 friend box that shows up are the same as your phone Facebook app BUT it's missing some people!
    In relations, those missing people appear in an unpredictable fashion to your "view as" list. That is if you type in one of your friends who is in the six box, type their initials in "view as", they are not the first to show up on that view as list. At first, I thought this "view as" must mimic my search bar, but if you type in initials in search and view as, the order changes. I know for sure search is who you search the most.
    So...view as, missing people on phone, six box,...what is this?!

  • PBnJ

    I forgot to mention, missing people in phone app appears consistently in six boxes.

  • Joe

    I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but for me this has been a pattern...You see, there is someone who I know is watching me, or those who may be checking out my profile. What I have noticed here lately has been the frequency of my chat bar switching between off (grey circle), and on (green circle). Where it starts is, I leave my chat to be offline. SO what I have noticed is how often after refreshing, the chat bar will sometimes go green without me actually putting myself online...so the little green circle goes green, and then after a while it reverts back to grey...what I have also found out is, certain people will frequently show up on my top six friends, either at the same time or shortly after the green circle is seen on. and sometimes, ads with specific friends, liking them, show up as well. SO has anyone else noticed this as well? this may relate to original alice's last post...

  • me

    It seems even the "main" larger friendbox, has changed. The top friends on the chat bar are no longer "stickies". Actually, I find the box is pretty willy-nilly now.

  • me

    What I have noticed, is that if any friends appear in the top box of six (underneath your cover photo) enough, they end up appearing on your side chat bar (offline). The more oten they look at your profile, the higher up they go. Then the top two become "stickies" on your main friend list.

  • I have been wondering since for some time now. If someone visits my profile, does facebook suggest me this person as friend in the homepage? I've noticed it for some time now.

  • Mn0o7

    Hey people I'm working on an App that makes automatic friendlists Check it out its in beta. 
    https://www.facebook.com/Frien...

  • idkBrianFacebook

    Oooo Oooo I got one too... I made a fake profile of my hand and named her Hizzle Efthand and I put her in a relationship with myself so it would say: "Brian is in a relationship with Hizzle Efthand!!" It worked for like a week. Some people got it, some people are stupid. But in the end, I haven't logged in to that fake facebook in over 6 months, I'm not in a relationship anymore, and I save it for people who leave their facebook open on my computer haha!! And it only has 5 friends. BUT it is one of the 15 that pop up on my page every day. Just a stat to add to your confusion. I didn't read everybodys comments here so suck it if you wanna hate. ;o)

  • Original Alice

    for what it's worth: I PMed my old and somewhat forgotten friend two days ago, today she replied and all of a sudden there is "such-and-such (that same friend) likes blah-blah" under the "recommended pages" when I logged in to see her message. She never ever appeared there before. there is a huge chance she looked at my profile before replying, so I am a firm believer now people who appear there are those who most likely visited your profile very recently, same day likely. Makes me somewhat happy, since I saw my love interest there earlier today after not-being-there for quite some time, I know, I know, don't judge, let me live in my fantasy world for a while :) 

  • John

    I have timeline. The 8 people that show up on my timeline are ALWAYS the same when I refresh. The 6 people who show up in the "Friends" box above the actual timeline alternate, although it is the same collection of probably ~15 people. Of the 8 who always show up on my timeline, there are a few extreme examples: One is my sister, who I rarely interact with (don't chat, like/comment on each others statuses etc.), but I'm sure we both view each others profile's fairly regularly. One is a girl I know digs me, so I wouldn't be surprised that she looks at my profile, she 'likes' some of my statuses, although the only time I've ever been to hers was the day she sent me a friend request. The sister of a girl I used to date, (and recently deleted/blocked on Facebook), just started showing up. My guess is that is aforementioned girl looking at my profile from her sister's profile. I've never interacted with her sister in any way on Facebook. Another is one of my best friends from college, and he and I have been posting shit on each others walls with some regularity over the past few weeks.

    Take what you want from that, but I think it still has something to do with who is visiting your profile.

  • Sarah

    I have to agree with that. I have timeline and since I got it there is the people I know visit my page (close friends ect) and a few others who have started to be CONSISTENTLY there. I think it is who views your profile if I'm honest. Have seen myself come up in friends of a few people who I don't interact with often but have been checking their profiles a bit...

  • Anon

    My Keesh list has changed completely in the last week. Of my top five people, three are not even friends, and one is a person I have never even heard of. People I interact with the most are well down the list. My boyfriend- who I am always talking to on Facebook- barely makes the top 15. It makes no sense at all and I have no idea how they have calculated these numbers.The list used to be pretty accurate.

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  • MD3

    I think it used to be decided by mutual views, but that seems to have changed since the list was disabled and then revised earlier this month. I now have celebrities I subscribe to (e.g. Snoop Dog) at the top of my list. Obviously, he's not looking at my profile! I also see a direct and quick correlation between my looking at someone's profile and their number going way up. I think the list now functions as it was 'supposed to' — it tells you whose profiles you're looking at most... and nothing more. Bummer!

  • belroyale

    That's exactly what I have noticed as well.
    I came to the same conclusion after long time of testing.
    Too bad :(

  • MD3

    I've noticed a slight shift in this over the past few days. You?

  • Belroyale

    Yes but I have not seen/gathered enough data to jump to any conclusions yet. In the beginning of april all numbers in the list got reset (my highest number was -196. ...); Before april I was 99% convinced it was based on mutual profile views. With the reset in april, all existing values seem to have been reset to a number below -1; all the numbers below -1 are still ranked in a certain order and on top of my list (with values of -0,99...) are the people who I suspect to be stalking my profile.

    When I check out a profile of a person below -1, the number increases to a value ABOVE -1... It takes some time for this to happen though (a few hours to a day) as there seems to be a delay in the refreshing of the list.

    Now... what about the values above -1... well they seem to reach this number only when you do the viewing of these other people; but then the question still remains if these actual values are further influenced by the fact the viewings were mutual or not;

    Although I am (after the reset) not really convinced anymore, I still believe mutual viewings play a role.

    The list seems to reset/refresh at a faster pace than before as the highest number I have gotten so far is -16...

    These are my *premature* conclusions so far. I made some testing and phonecalls to fb friends to aid me in the mutual viewing (and/or ask them if they had visited my profile)
    -) Any value above -10  --> mutual viewing
    -) Any value above -1 of whom you didn't visit their profile or interacted with --> they viewed you
    -) Any value above -1 but below -10 of a person's profile you visited --> One sided viewing of you

    Once again, it's too soon to tell. FB is messing with our heads clearly (and they know about our findings) by using different lists and putting many randoms into the equation.

    Let's keep sharing our thoughts and finsings about this!!

  • MD3

    Great info! My findings are similar: The numbers are much, much lower since the reset, and the highest number I've seen is -18. (Before the reset, my top-ranked person was >-400!) I also think that time spent on the person's profile or looking at photos has an impact. Do you find that clearing your cache affects the rankings? 

  • Belroyale

    "Yes they’ve clearly changed the criteria. Relatives are all near the top, about 25 of them clumped together. I have tons of cousins listed as my relatives on fb- however, most we never interact and they’ve never made the list but this time they all made the list near the top regardless."

    Clearing cache doesn't seem to affect my rankings and I checked the results on different computers, where they appear to be the same.

    I hate to break it to you, but it appears that the list has definitely become one-sided :(
    Today I posted birthday wishes on three people's walls. I used the sidebar for this for person A & B and I went to the profile wall of person C
    Both person B & C "like-buttoned" my post.

    One hour later persons A & B are still low on my list far below -1, while person C has skyrocketed to -9.5

    Confidential question for you MD3, is your -400 and -18 your crush whom you stalk? Is there a lot of mutual interaction between you two? Just look at your list and examine closely if you have visited all their profiles recently or browsed through pictures in which these names were tagged. I seem to be able to say that this is the case for me...

  • MD3

    Yes, my top person is someone whose profile I click on, although nowhere near often enough to make the number that high. That's more true about the -400 number. And no public interaction whatsoever. I don't have any relatives identified as such, so I can't speak to that. Clearing the cache has an instant effect on my numbers. Maybe it depends on your browser? I use Google Chrome.

  • Belroyale

    -400 was in the period when it was definitely mutual based. I am using Safari, but will try to test out some things with Google Chrome.

    So far I am 98% convinced that after the update, the list has become one sided :(

  • Belroyale

    Ok so I didn't visit anyone's profile for a few days (only browsed the newsfeed) and ALL values are below -1 now with on top the person I have 'stalked' the most recentl. At nr 5, the person whose profile I haven't visited in the past months, but before have stalked the most in my entire facebook history.And at nr 16, a person who died 3 months ago, but who keeps appearing in my list, although I haven't visited his page all that much.

    All facts combined, and alas to say, the list seems really one-sided :((((((((

    Google edgerank, which will explain a lot

  • MD3

    Same here. It's probably for the best because I'm spending a lot less time on Facebook now. 

  • Belroyale

    And they changed it again... Now no value seems to hit the -1 and above mark ever!! The friend box variables  seem to have been tweaked as well.

    I am through analyzing this MD3, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever anymore. Just leave it be for what it is, it's not worth it. And neither is facebook as a whole.

    The END

  • MD3

    I noticed a change in the lower friends box too. It's now the same box no matter who views it, and the person I'd like to be in it is no longer there. Oh well. 

  • Aba

    Oh yeah, they keep tweaking stuff and nothing makes sense in my list anymore either. The order of people in my keesh list just seems completely randomised.

  • matt

     I have been reading about this stuff all day!
    How do you find out these values?

  • Foxynewton
  • Belroyale

    Clearing the cache doesn't seem to have an impact. The list seems to be the same on multiple other computers as well. 

    In any case, no doubt about it that they've clearly changed the criteria. All my listed fb relatives also seem to have made the list, although we never have any interaction whatsoever - they are all clumped together.

    Hate to break it to you, but it appears more and more to be the case that the list has become definitely one sided :/
    The delay in updates of the list makes it hard to know for sure, but so far ... I don't know anymore, it'll require more testing.

    Yes, checking out a person's profile and browsing through pictures seem to have the biggest impact.

    This just happened:
    I congratulated some people for their birthdays on their facebook. For a two people (A & B) I did this through the sidebar, for one (C) I went directly to his wall to post it.

    Both B & C 'liked' my birthday comment.

    Well now: A & B are still way below -1, while C suddenly skyrocketed to -9

  • i can't believe these girls talking about stalkers on their friends list.  You are paranoid.  If you think they are stalkers then why do you add them as friends??  That said my experience is:
    - I have people I have rarely publicly interacted with that show up
    - I have people I interact with often that don't show up
    - then I have people that suddenly show up for a day or two and drop off ...   despite no public interaction

    I had been thinking that it had to do with who checked my profile, but then recently I verified with a friend that he had not interacted with my profile in any way in the past 2 days, yet he was showing top of the list.

    Personally, I prefer Facebook making public the true criteria , this way we are not imagining things

  • I don't think it's a privacy concern. If you don't want someone looking at your profile then don't have them as a friend. It's kind of the point of having someone as a friend on facebook...they can look at your profile and you can look at theirs. Nothing has changed except that now you can see that they're doing what they're expected to do in order to actually make use of the site. The people you are looking at should have that same expectation. If a person feels like they need to hide and are bothered that someone knows that person is using facebook to look at their profile (which, again, is its purpose, no?) then maybe their issue is that they're not using it with the purest of intentions and really ARE being creepy...in which case I'm glad the creepee is aware of the creeper's activity

  • Original Alice

    so is the edgerank described in the link below by Foxy Vixen the same as the Keesh/stalker list? I know we all think the Keesh list is based on mutual views, but what if it's just the pure EdgeRank?  I have been checking two FB profiles every day for the past few months (my friend's and my romantic interest/crush) and for a while both were moving up on the Keesh list with the same rate. But few days ago the crush's numbers went from ~120 to 50 (ouch!) while that friend's number went from ~ 130 to 150. 
    I was a bit disappointed, assuming the number of mutual views went down. It may be still the case... but then I re-read the EdgeRank article again and realized that in the last month or so I clicked on many photos of my friend (she has old-style profile page), while I didn't click on a single photo of my crush even though he posted a lot of new ones. The reason I didn't click on them is because he got the timeline and photos appear so huge there, there is no need to click on them to see the details. He also shares  a lot of youtube videos, and since I always have troubles with video-viewing plugin on my laptop, I usually just click on the actual youtube link and never watch them on FB itself.... so I realized that maybe I reduced his EdgeRank by "ignoring" his photos and videos? He got timeline in the beginning of March, so I guess it took a month for the Keesh list (or EdgeRank) to catch up. According to that article, viewing photos and videos increases the EdgeRank....
    Both of those people still appear on my LSB10 friends with the same frequency, it seems, and the chat bar order didn't change.

    By the way, it seems there is another Alice on this forum that posted 3 weeks ago, so I post under the name of Original Alice :) I did post here few times before as "Alice"... and it was more than 3 weeks ago

  • Dual_lancer

    To whom this may concern for whoever has timeline. Okay, so now I can determine, some of the friends that show up on the friends list on the right side on timeline, they HAVE to be someone who has recently interacted with your profile. For me, it has always been noticing recommended pages, from certain people, then two days later, they show up on my friends list. Contrarily, I have been following suit on a certain friend, who uploads vlogs on youtube. he seems to be following me, yet doesn't talk. Sometimes, I would write out notes, and then a few days later, he'd upload a vlog talking in reference to what I wrote. I can prove this, because two days before he showed on the right friends list just now, recommended pages, showing what he likes, started showing up all at once. What made it even more suspicious was, not only were there recommended pages, but also a sponsored ad, saying "he likes this".

  • Hawk

    Has anyone ever noticed, that the right bottom portrait of the 8-friend box stays fix all the time, while the other 7 switch places when you hit the browser refresh button.

    With me the right bottom friend changes after a certain period in someone else, however for the last two weeks I have only have two different right bottom friends - alternating places with each other.

    I (almost) know for a fact that these two persons are the ones who visit my wall the most often (however I also interact with them and visit their wall)

  • Joe

    I have noticed that as well, in fact, one of the friends that were down there, just let up not too long ago. he was replaced by someone who also sometimes comments on vids that I post on my timeline. I don't usually have people talking to me all the time, and I make sure that I avoid the homepage, just to avoid the mindfucks, that facebook tries to throw at me. Another case, is having to find evidence that someone had looked at my profile, and then showed up on the friends box (the bottom list). The ones that show up most on that list, or they stay there somewhat permanantly, are probably those who intentionally view your page...

  • Joe

    Has anyone ever contemplated about how certain sponsored ads tend to show with certain friend's names such as "So-so likes this"? Like I could go on my profile page, and see that this person likes something, but underneath, this is the same person from the top friends in the smaller friends box. another case is, the ads are mostly also from friends that show up on the "deactivate" page.

    maybe if someone uses facebook much less, or is offline from chat, for a long time, they start to drop off. I checked my chatbar, and the some people who had a longevity of time up there, are now off the list. The search bar remains the same for the someone who fell off my chat list...hmmm...

  • Anonymous

    I know about the first and hope he fixes it soon. The second and third look to work fine. What did I miss?

  • sunshine

    the keesh list, search bar and chat side bar have all been disabled!

  • Anonymous

    The Keesh list seems to have stopped working overnight.

  • marius

    I literally only talk to one person regularly on facebook, and he doesn't show up at all. Only people who I notice pay attention to my posts do, but I do not have any particular interaction with any of them. They don't even like my shit that much. But it's often the same collection, as you said happened to you.

  • Alice

    Thanks for the link to the article. It was informative. Obviously there are other "edges" involved in individual marketing campaigns. Especially the marketing and presentation of facebook data.

    Possibly now we can all stop believing we are the centre of a fantasy universe. Where ex-lovers pop out of the woodwork. And start remembering that we are, in fact, all being vaguely market manipulated by our own curiosity and self-centredness. Not that it's a bad thing. In general.

    Thanks again.

  • Foxy Vixen
  • Alice

    Facebook programmers are highly intelligent people. Facebook can afford to employ the very best minds, recruited from anywhere in the world. They would never, ever allow a system to operate which could violate their privacy laws - is he stalking me? am I stalking them?

    Facebook is first and foremost a business.

    They would like to keep your custom. It generates revenue.

    A fool proof way of generating revenue is to keep people talking. . . to encourage people to check on other people.

    They do have an algorithm. It must involve a mix of parameters. One of which is "who has been silent for a while?" Another would be "who is popular". And another would be frequent searches . . . . not necessarily current searches, but based probably at some time in the past.

    Clever aren't they? These facebook programmers? People are still talking, and checking.

  • Anonymous

    I noticed this over a year ago. I agree with you 100% that these are the people looking at your profile. I mostly have proof because I've been told by 3 or 4 people directly that they stalk my facebook....and those people undoubtedly, appear on my page. Another thing, if you drag your mouse over someone's name so you can see yours and their mutual friends, the same people on your page also appears on that friends list. Coincidence? I don't think so!

  • Gabrielle A

    So funny that I noticed this over a year ago. I agree with you 100% and it is a privacy issue. Whether or not facebook realizes what they're doing here, or if it's just a technical glitch thats gone unnoticed....you can see who has been looking at your profile this way. I thought I was going crazy when I noticed that, happy someone finally posted about it

  • Mindy

    So...there's a lot of comments...so maybe someone said this already...but here we go anyway...

    Facebook knows that if they enable the "who's viewing whose profile?" that all of you will rile up in rage about privacy over an actually super enlightening feature: you know who is creeping on you now.

    So what they did was add an element of randomness. This is so easy to do. I just finished making a video game and to have a consistent set of data, blended with some random set of data, is really easy.

    Also, has anyone thought at all that maybe these people, are people that YOU visit a lot? That's definitely what I thought of first, because that's what I noticed happening.

    Finally, I think it's all three combined with "public interaction" so that you will be REALLY confused when you look at your data, so you can't rile up in rage for something that may actually help make the world more safe because now you can avoid those creepy people who visit your profile a little TOO much.

  • Shane

    Does anyone know how to edit the number of friends displayed within the profile box in the main body?? I've noticed that some of my friends have 10 friends displaying, I have 6.

  • Lily

    I kinda like knowing.. it's helped me predict a few stalkers that appeared at my work. Two separate occasions, two separate people. At least this way, I wasnt surprised.

  • Camille

    The new timeline has two boxes that show your friends. Does anyone know which box to pay attention to? Is it the one next to Photos, Maps, and Likes, or the friends box to the right?

  • AFC87

    ..you like that lame attempt to give a dull post some energy by adding "!" at the end? Yeah boi

  • AFC87

    ..you like that lame attempt to give that long winded post some energy by putting a "!" at the end?

  • AFC87

    Even in the new timeline profile I'm noticing coincidences. In the six friends shown, my ex frequently appears - even though we were never 'in a relationship' on Facebook, nor did we interact much on there. Never come to think of it. Perhaps it's just wishful thinking, but as it's a relatively recent break up on good terms, it's possible she's checking out my profile. Further, after getting off the phone to a friend of mine earlier today - whom I rarely interact with online - she then appears in my top 6. Finally, there is one girl who consistently pops up - a girl whom I see often but again only interact with on the phone or in person. This too leads me to conclude she, like the others, are viewing my profile frequently.

    I actually have nothing against knowing whom is "stalking" me, nor do I care who knows whom I'm "stalking". I understand privacy is an extremely, extremely complex and sensitive issue, but in this particular case I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest, who gives a f*ck? In fact I think it's rather sweet knowing who's been checking you out; like a subtle poke.

    In summary, my "top friends" are always either people I frequently interact with online, or girls I frequently see in person but never online. Both instances, as well as the opening examples strongly indicate that the friends whom regularly appear on your profile are those whom often frequent your profile!

  • elle

    @Sarah. I have 2 fake profiles that I use to onseidedly stalk myself. One is a year old, the other is 2 yrs old. I can say that over time, both profiles have shown up in many of the expected places. Last summer, both of my fake profiles were showing up on searchbar, MO5, Make facebook you homepage, briefly no the offline chatbar, and relatively higher than expected positions on the keeseh stalker list considering I never viewed/ interacted w these fake profiles (ie #25 and #80 out of 500 friends).... neither was ever on LSB10 curiously (I think that LSB10 has more to do w more mutuality?)

    However, as of right now, both fake profiles have disappeared completely from my keesh list, from search bar, from chatbar... Basically, i can't find hints of my fake profiles anywhere on my real profiles anymore. I think it's possible that facebook may have changed its settings so that profiles that use the same IP address can't really show up so that suspicious ppl like us can't easily do these tests anymore. I'm now running a test w a 3rd fake profile from a school computer to see what I can find out. I suggest other ppl to do the same too so that we can compare findings in a few weeks :) I can't think of any other way.

  • Foxy Vixen

    @Sarah00, I think your "experiment" is a good idea. However, take a look at Elle's comments above. I think you would need to do this from a different computer with a different IP address. Otherwise, your results could be questionable.

    Btw, I have noticed the Keesh numbers jump up or down on my list every couple of days. This happens without my stalking or visiting his profile at all. No clicks, no "likes" no comments lately. So why would it jump from -89.blahblahblah to -92.blahblahblah? Just curious. Also the names on the list fluctuate as well. Again, without me "interacting" with those other profiles at all.

  • sarah00

    Yeah you are right...I'd have to try it from a different computer. But for some reason my stalker list takes one week to update itself & not every couple of days anymore. I wonder why it updates itself faster on other's computers :-/

  • sarah00

    Okay here is another question: Has anyone ever created a fake profile and stalked their own real profile and checked the stalker-keesh-list on their real profile to see the ranking of their fake profile name?

  • elle

    guys, there has GOT to be something to that offline chat bar. I can't figure out exactly what it is though :(

  • Anonymous

    k i just went to test this theory. went on my friends profile and saw my mom at the friends at the top 6 friends or whatever. now i know my boy wouldnt be going on my moms profile. she is old sick and crippled :(. and my mom is the stalker. so who knows right

  • elle

    @ annonymous, on timeline, the 6 friends you see on another person's profile are different from what the account holder actually sees. what you see on their profile seems to be based on the mutual friends you have. For the standard facebook, i'm pretty sure the people displayed in LSB10 list is the same for the account holder and the profile visitor. I have multiple profiles so I've been doing many tests for many months to try to crack the code but still can't come up with anything conclusive sadly :(

    However, someone mentioned above that stalkers with the same ip address as you may not show up in the same suspected places as regular stalkers so I'm about to try another experiment w a 5th profile using a school computer w a different ip address to stalk my real profile and see if i can FINALLY conclusively figure anything out. haha

  • Foxy Vixen

    Sarah, the Keesh list changes for me too. I find it changes every couple of days or so (even after clearing the cache). The weird thing is that sometimes my guy is at #1 with a -32 score, then remains at #1 with a higher score, say -130, without me changing the number of visits to his profile. Lately my "interactions" have been limited to quick peeks at the profile picture (that everyone can see).

  • sarah00

    Actually "quick peeks" are also counted when it comes to the count/rank increasing (believe it or not!). Pretty much clicking on anything that is related to his profile including clicking to see who are the people who have "liked" a status-update of his/a link of his that might be appearing on your news-feed, can also increase the rank...Can you try not to take any 'quick peeks"/or try not to click on anything related to him whatsoever, then maybe you can figure out if it is mutual.

  • Mostly Happy Lurking

    Has the Keesh list stopped changing the past few days? Mine hasn't budged for at least three. I'd been comparing the changes day-to-day for a while, then suddenly nothing ever changed even though interactions both ways changed a lot.

    One thing I see on the dropdown search list is that new profile picture changes lag there for days while they update almost instantly if you check old messages.

    Too, it seems like there're two almost not quite static dropdown versions that seem to alternate. They have very different contents. Maybe if someone is online or not at the time?

  • Mostly Happy Lurking

    Has the Keesh list stopped changing the past few days? Mine hasn't budged for at least three. I'd been comparing the changes day-to-day for a while, then suddenly nothing ever changed even though interactions both ways changed a lot.

    One thing I see on the dropdown search list is that new profile picture changes lag there for days while they update almost instantly if you check old messages.

    Too, it seems like there're two almost not quite static dropdown versions that seem to alternate. They have very different contents. Maybe if someone is online or not at the time?

  • Foxy Vixen

    Sarah00, I haven't been here in a while. Can you please repost the link to the Keesh list? Why with all the new FB updates and new profile timeline, I can't keep track of what is going one anymore. Thanks!

  • sarah00
  • freckles

    yea, it's DEFINITELY who's been on your profuile recently, because someone keeps appearing on mine, and i know why.

  • ricky

    The ten people that appear on my wall have barely Any public interaction with my facebook. There's a group of people who I have been tagged in group pictures with recently but there are two people who appear every time I refresh my page and I have NEVER had Any interaction with them!! It definitely has something to do with who views your page!!!

  • Joe

    try posting something that you know will be of interest to who you feel watches you. my indicator has been me finding people who I may know based upon a friend that hasn't spoken to me in a month. I find this out after talking to someone else publicly on facebook.

    so let's say, I posted a comment on someone's post. Minutes later, these friends of someone who doesn't even talk to me show up, in the people you may know box. I know it is this one person because he's the only person who shows up when I click on the "1 mutual friend"

  • Alice

    @Joe: yep, that's my point. people on your chat bar are not people who chat with you most, I am convinced those are people who have viewed your profile the most or have viewed it recently. I have multiple evidence of that, like some would mention they saw a pic of mine, and they instantly move up on the cat bar, and we never ever chat with each other.

  • Anonymous

    the odd case is when the list on the chatbar tends to correspond with the search bar. For example, this random girl, that I honestly never talk to, has shot up first with her four initialed name, on the search bar. by tonight I'll check my chat bar and see if she has been put up there. The wonder is, the guy I like, I haven't talked to him for like a month and a half, an he is still first on the search bar for his username, and last name, but now he's second to the guy who is now talking to me by his first initial. he has been on the chatbar for the longest time, and he is at the very bottom, right under the guy I have been talking to.

    I looked at someone else's profile, who happened to be under the mysterious girl, then she went down as soon as I checked back. it has to be mutual viewing on that search bar, and chat bar. I want to know where you can drag it down, to where someone is the only one left. that would be very helpful.

  • Joe

    you know when you get these "recommended pages" or "people you may know"? At first it may appear to be different people liking something, but as you venture into your profile, such as going to your photos, it'll line up to someone in particular. For whoever spots this, try going to your notes, photos, or anything that you know that is able to be looked at by someone else, and notice who shows up most as "so-so likes this" it's been the same case, when sometimes, I wrote notes and saw friends of this one person in particular in the "people you may know", a little while after posting. it.

    as soon as I noticed the pattern, it stopped, and this wasn't the first time I noticed this either.

    I read your post alice. someone is definitely interested in me, yet doesn't talk to me. this person in particular, has been on the chat bar for as long as I can remember, but doesn't even talk to me and no one ever overlaps him.

  • Alice

    ... sometimes I think FB just messes up with our heads lol! I wouldn't be surprised if they have special stuff who looks all day at people interactions on FB, decides who our obsession is and starts messing up with us by showing or not showing them on our profiles. I've been following who shows up on my LSB and chat bar for a while, and most of the times I conclude it's based on mutual interactions, but not always.

    the only certain conclusion I came up with so far is: if people are not showing up on your LSB or chat bar, then they are not interested in you and you are not interested in them.

    as an experiment, I went to few of my real-life friends profiles to look who shows up on their LSB10. All of these people have few hundreds of FB friends from their previous lives in school, college, jobs, hobbies or what not. Interestingly, people who were on their friends list were mostly people from their "current" life, i.e., their boyfriends/girlfriends, relatives, our mutual friends (including myself), their other good friends, etc. It's almost like if you want to find out who is important to a certain person as fas FB interactions, go to their profile and see who is on their friends list. That's why many make it private. It doesn't always work, however. I, for example, have only ~60 friends on FB and interact/stalk regularly with only 3 people, plus occasionally visit other profiles if they have interesting photos, so my LSB list is kinda weird, but still is quite representative of my current life.

  • Nachos

    This is such an interesting issue to discuss about. I have heard people saying that the top 15 are those who had recently viewed your profile. Though some people have been debating about the same person that keeps appearing on the top 15 are those they often stalk, I don't think that is the case. I have been stalking a few profiles on FB however, their faces don't appear on my top 15 list. I am not sure whether mine's appears on theirs or not because unfortunately the person(s) whom i stalk had set their friend's list as private. such a bummer. LOL. Regardless, I do believe it has something to do with recent views/interactions either publicly or in private. Nevertheless to what extend is the time frame of "recent viewers" is a bit tricky to be answered because apparently some of the friends who appear in my top 15 list are those who I barely (perhaps never) interacted with. Another question that wonders me is if we were to set our friend list as private, would our profile appear on the profile of person whom we stalk?

  • Gember

    I think that facebook is fucking with us. Its trying to drive us crazy by purposefully puting people who you interact with or who interact with you in a more stakerish way on the sidebar -- people whose only interactions are page/picture/post viewing and then 'liking' or more uncommonly commenting on a mutual photo every now and then. Some of the people I am constantly having public interactions with do not show up there.

  • Anon

    Here's what I have noticed:

    1) Most of the friends that are on my friends list are indeed friends that I have had the 'most interactions' with. This doesn't necessarily mean I comment on their statuses, like, etc. ALL the time. This includes tags in pictures, check-ins, etc. I am tagged in TONS of the same pictures as 3 of my friends who I went on a trip with half a year ago, barely if not ever talk to them now. But they still show up on my friends and chat list.

    2) 3 of the friends that are on my list are the ones that I stalk. I doubt they are checking out my profile, but it's funny how they consistently show up on mine. I stalk their pages all the time! But I'm never on their friends list!!

    3) I made a fake profile to stalk one of my crushes. There was an earlier post about Facebook using your internet cache to streamline ads, etc. This has to be somewhat true. I logged onto my fake account and looked at the suggested friends list. They were all people who's profiles I've viewed using my REAL account! My fake and real account are not connected at all (i.e. I did not add myself). There is definitely some connection between the stored information on your computer and what facebook is presenting to you. This explains when you search someone typing one letter, it automatically brings up the person you've viewed or interacted the most.

    So I don't know if it really shows who has been stalking you, for me it definitely shows who I have been stalking the most.

  • delicious! very interesting, I liked it.

  • JoysInSD

    I think FB also monitors who you email and who emails you but specifically from gmail and hotmail accounts. I did a test and emailed my business account from my gmail account and my business profile showed up as a person I may know. Also, I had emailed a person who is not a FB friend and he shows up in the people I may know. He has a hotmail account and I used my gmail account to email him.

  • Shar

    I'm convinced it's people who have recently visited your profile and Facebook is just trying to cover their asses with the whole "public interactions" statement. There's one person who consistently shows up in my top friends who I don't publicly interact with on Facebook. Actually, most of the people in my top friends are people I don't publicly interact with. Yet, the people who I DO publicly interact with almost daily, are almost never in my top friends. And when they are, it's usually after a time when I know they had visited my profile.

  • Jay

    I found this interesting too and have been doing some experimenting with it and trying to figure out exactly how these people are chosen. It's not who you interact with the most. Mine pops up with many people that I haven't talked with in a long time soooo...I've been keeping track of a friend's page list with someone I am friends with but not not direct friends on my FB page...this person is a mutual link between us. I've had interactions with this person offline mostly. Not stalking or anything. Same sex but just an experimentation to try to nail it down further. I know this person's schedule, when they come on the most, etc. The times where I know they are not online and don't have access to a computer they don't show up in this friend's friend list. This was spot on time and time again. I even called at one point asking if they were online and they said yes or that they had recently gone on that day; hence showing up either higher up or lower on the list.

    This person was not online for a number of days. I pushed it even further. I posted something on my page tagging our mutual friend and the context of my post would be of great interest to this other person. I was curious since friends of friends and tagging a friend will show up in their friend's newsfeed as well. She would ultimately get wind of it and piqued curiosity since this friends that we are both friends with has been tagged in my post. Sure as you know what, within 12 hours of my posting and tagging our mutual friend with content this other person would also be interested in...the entire day and I tracked it, they were showing up nonstop usually higher up on the friend's list. Come to find out, they in fact online that day and reading what I had posted because our mutual friend was tagged.

    Long story short. The more I've experimented with this, I believe it's telling of who has been online most recently. Higher up on the friend list are the ones who are online at that moment or actively browsing. The ones who are lower in the friend list were recently on or haven't clicked on a post or what have you for some time due to reading or signing off, etc. Of course, there are still those showing up that do seem to be random but very small few that show up but believe now it tells you who is online or has been online recently.

  • john

    Who cares? That's what Facebook is all about interacting with people isn't it. You can always not have any friends if it bothers you that much but you'd probably be unhappy if you were ignored. You sound like a paranoid, self obsessed moaner that probably no-one is that interested about anyway. Humans are curious in humans like cats are curious about other cats and dogs are curious about other dogs so don't read so much into it. It's not all about you! Grow up!

  • Madison

    Its soo true everyone on my friends bar i always talk to and i always catch them on my facebook page....

    thats sooo creepy haha

  • Joe

    I've been noticing for some time that my LSB10 hasn't changed much at all. Everytime I log in, I see the same sort of people 10- 12 maybe in the rotation, when I refresh for some time, then log off. Some people I know check on me, have been coming on and off lately. However, my crush has been on the LSB10 list, every single day since I first realized his frequency of showing up on the LSB10...

    The note reader, he appears on and off such as a few others, but I have an idea that he does checks on me from time to time. I personally told him on another website, not to talk to me on facebook, and he rarely likes my statuses, or video links.

    Maybe the fact that I reduced myself to just visiting my facebook, instead of staying on it all day long, may be affecting this. I also noticed that my search bar has updated faster than it usually did when I stopped going on facebook all day long. These are just visits. Maybe facebook knows we may log on and refresh a lot, and expect us to expect our crush, or familiar friends to show up on the LSB10.

    I haven't really been talking to people, and especially not checking profiles for a while, and few people have dropped off my LSB10(such as the note reader, but he goes on and off frequently), but as for my crush to remain on the list for more than five days, there must be something under the covers ;)

  • Sherly

    SO ya, i just want to share my case .

    There are 1 guy, have 2 Fb accounts. The one is already full (reach 5000) and the other is still adding many friends. He's sort of popular guy.

    I used to stalk the full account, maybe once in a while i visited his profile, liked his statuses, saw his photos, and he appear in my top list. The second account i did the same but no too much like the first one. The second account also appear in my list.

    So i just stop interact with these accounts, and the second one is gone from my list and the first account still there, for a long time (why?). I keep wait for that account to be gone from my list to show that the reason he appear in my list cos i stalk him. But i wonder maybe he visited my profile too.

  • Dodge

    I definetly believe this. When you hover over a friends profile pic it shows a tab showing 5 mutual friends, and this one girl kept showing up in that tab over and over again. I have never interacted with her on fb. Also whenever I hit "see friendship" for someone, she always shows up on that page too. She doesn't show up in my friends list on my profile page, but heres what happens a lot: I will be online, then ill see her sign on, and within minutes she will start appearing in my friends list with every single refresh...strange...almost like I can tell when she viewed my page...but the next day she wont be on there anymore.

  • anon

    It's true, if they like you enough to keep looking on your page why are they not msg you etc? It is strange, that it's your crushes but there has to be something else in it?

  • AnonDude

    I don't really interact on Facebook much. I'll post maybe 1 status a month, maybe a like or a comment here and there that's it. Here's what I got:

    2 friends who always show up regularly on my top 10. I could imagine they check my profile regularly because I talk to them often.

    5 people who I talk to once in a while. They just started showing on my top 10 so maybe they checked my profile briefly to see how I'm doing.

    1 semi-famous person who I doubt would check my profile regularly if at all.

    2 girls whose profiles I have checked on and off for months now but never talked to them. They just showed up this past week. This happens often as there will be other girls showing up. However, I'm not in their top 10.

    What does this all mean? Who knows, it would be nice if the girls who checked out my profile were ones that were into me, but I bet if I messaged them they'd ignore me haha.

  • josh

    if you want privacy then delete your account!

  • Anonymous

    Haha, if you're suspicious about which 'friends' are viewing your profile, maybe you need to do a cleanup on your 'friends' list.

  • wall

    anybody has any insights for the new friend box on facebook timeline...there are 2*6 friends photos...6 small photos under your name and another 6 bigger photos on the right....the small photos box looks like the old MO5...

  • incognito

    There is one particular friend whose profile page I view constantly several times a day, send & receive private messages from, occasionally chat with, I'm always "liking" her posts & she posted something on my wall last night, yet she STILL isn't showing up on the list on my page & I'm not showing up on hers. Many of the people w2ho are showing up are people I almost never interact with. What gives?

  • Bob

    I'm pretty sure it's people who check your profile often. None of the 10 people in my list are people who's profiles I have visited recently. What's also interesting is that those people have in person, shown an interest in me in the past. There are also four people whom I haven't talked to recently... Those guys, I'm not entirely sure about... But, the other 6 girls are people who seem to like me.

  • ¨jimmy

    Okey then, so. will the ppl who says that the 'random' friends that appears on you'r friendbox, is in fact people whos profile YOU visit alot. or even worse, random. That's false.

    1. In this exact moment, there is a girl showing in my box that i have honest to god, NEVER spoken to. We have like 5mutual friends. no photos together, and I have no contact with those 5mutual friends either. ( with that being said. ofc she turns up in my box, and not me in her's. since ive never visited her's, before now).

    ( SHE CREEP, SHE SHOWS AT MY PAGE ). Point is - The one who stalks, ends up on the victim's profile.

    2. However, i stalked my guy-friend for about 3 days, creeping his profile about 3times a day. BAM, now im on his friendbox (while he doesn't show in my box), along with another good friend of ours ( we're hanging out alot we 3, no coincidence we're showing if ur asking me).

    ( I CREEP, I SHOW UP AT HIS PAGE ) Point is, as mentioned above - The one who stalks, ends up on the victim's profile (my friend being the victim ofc, lol).

    3. to my friendbox. 10 people showing, 7/10 have reason to creep my profile. im not surprised to see them there. the other 3 aren't THAT random either. Earlier today i posted on my brothers wall, and later on this night, one of HIS classmaties who added me like 2months ago, appears in my box( i've never spoken/liked or anything adressing her, nor has she when it comes to me. SO basically, i assume she saw the post, and decided to visit my profile). The second of the /3 is a guy whose wallpost I ''liked'' today ( assuming same as the girlexample, he sees the ''like'', and decides to check my profile out). And the 3rd of /3 is the random chick. who's probably just creeping my page cuz idk, maybe she's attracted to me.



    Im pretty goddamn convinced that this friendbox is showing a somewhat up to date, list of who visited your profile. there are always like.. 3 of the SAME GIRLS appearing in my box, all of whom I KNOW, think that i look good. Rest are close friends, sometimes a familymember ( Older sister, who uses a different IP. i find mentioning the IP is different, because i dont think someone with the same IP, can in fact show in the box ). And ofc, sometimes 1-3 (3 TOPS, usually 1-2) random creeps.

    finishing this post by saying that. a couple of hours ago, i sent a TEXT-MSG, to a girl that I friend on FB ( Who has NEVER been seen in my friendsbox) telling her my new phonenumber. we haven't had ANY contact at all, since we saw eachother at a club like 6months ago. so again, i texted her. And basically, it probably reminded her of my existence, she probably felt like checking my profile to catch up what ive been doing for sucha long time. Who do you think, just popped up in my friendsbox? ... yeah, u know it, HER.

    EVERYONE SEES THEIR EX's, Coincidence? Naa

    Who stalks better than your EX? no one.

    Actually, im not gonna finish the post.. just yet.

    I would like to, but i just have to much personal experience with this..

    Anyone remembers PHOTO-MEMORIES(now removed)?

    There was a blog/forum about the exakt same thing. Crushes/Ex'es and close friends kept popping up. I contacted FB asking why the same ppl kept popping up. they said that the order of ppl showing up is a algorithm that blablalbadi-and-crap selects who will show, (based on photos tagged in TOGETHER, posts tagged in TOGETHER and so on. and that it was mostly random. It was just that, we werent tagged in ONE SINGLE photo/wallpost together, not ever.

    however, i didnt (aswell as thousands of other facebook-users) believe that it was a coincidence that our besties, Ex'es and Crushes kept showing up. even if we had'nt visited our Ex'es profiles in fucking ages.

    It just screamed that the ppl showing in photo-memories were the ones who spent most time on your profile. it all made sense. And now, we ask the EXACT same questions about this friendbox ( to the left, below ur profilepicture).



    And since I actually tested to creep someone, and noticed MY PICTURE did in fact show at their profile, and their profile in that case, DID NOT show in my box.

    And since people whom I think, has a reason to creep at my profile, actually does appear in my friendbox.

    Adding this shit up.. me, and anyone sharing my opinions. Are probably right.





    That's one hell of a long post..

  • kava

    How is it possible that my #1 on Keesh list jumps up 10 or so points every couple of days when I don't have any FB interaction with him? I don't look, creep, peak, click on anything about/from him on news feeds or anything. Just today it jumped up from -31.xxx to -41.xxx. There is only one answer...I posted some pics of me (kinda sexyish, lol) and he was viewing them. Proves that list is a two way street...only in his case it's going one way...right down MY alley, lol. :)

  • sarah00

    Something strange has been taking place in my Keesh list: for some reason every other name on my Keesh-list gets an updated rank EXCEPT my 'crush'...he is at the top of my list (the first in my list with the highest ranking), his number NEVER changes and all this in spite of the fact that its been ages since I opened or viewed his profile. How is it possible that all the rankings of everyone else on my list either decreases or increases every couple of days EXCEPT his?? His ranking should have reduced since I haven't viewed it for ages now :-/ :-/

  • sarah00

    The Keesh list has thankfully been fixed again! YAY! I truly thought I was never going to get it back...coz unlike everyone else discussing this topic, you & me are the only ones truly following the keesh list religiously :-)

    It is by far the only stalker list that truly is two-way, unlike PYMK, LSB10, etc, which requires a lot of guesswork & we still haven't figured it out.

    There are only things I don't get: 1) why is my own name appearing in the list in the top 4th ranking? & 2)What is the meaning of a negative number, i.e. for example: -23.xxxx? Why are there no positive numbers on my keesh list?

  • Jackie

    The keesh list doesn't work anymore. I don't know why, or if it will ever be fixed again. Which sucks...I really wanted to check it out

  • Anon

    Whats the keesh list?

  • imnotgayffs

    if this is true my suspicions about some friends has gay feelings towards me. ffs this is so lame. well, now there's nothing left to do but to mock them for what they really is in real life, faggots who wants my penis up theyre ass. FFS its not cool to be a really handsome guy with a positive aura. Retarded noobs dont know how to act. gtfo my shit. should i just delete them? i'm not homophobic cause i'm secure about myself but this is just creepy. 1 positive thing though two of the hottest girls i know show up there too :)

  • strange

    isn't strange that our crash is always first on the keesh list, is this an illusion?..for some lucky guys is possible to have the crush who views them profile..but almost all of us have the crush on the first..strange no?

  • kava

    @sara00: I too check the keesh-list ALL DAY! I noticed that an old crush remains at #1 and his numbers jump (way up in some cases) and I DO NOT look at his page at all!

    Keesh-list is based on both ways tracking...I'm SURE of it!

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