Phone Wars : The iPhone vs Nokia 5800 vs G1 Android

ahahah very funny. But that's the written specs. Have you tried it for a while? judging from the videos on youtube, the reviews and the comments by those who got the device and tried the thing.... sure , on paper the specs look great, but the reality is a bit different. It's a new interface (someone even say half finished) slapped onto an old OS, slow and really not as good as Android nor let alone the MacOSX. The music capability has been said to be laughable, and the overall operation of the phone is nothing revolutionary. I would say the phone wars is definitely on, but the 5800 is not, in any way, a contender. Let's hope Nokia gives us something more interesting in the next following months.

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Hmmmm, since S60 has 40% of smartphone market (Apple has 10-15%) and a mature, open source operating system, and a ton of applications out there already, I would say that the army of developers has been convinced for a long time already. Its only people living in the Apple bubble in the US who really think that the Apple is ahead of the game in all respects. Nokia sold 500 million phones last year and is a 37 billion dollar company. I wouldn't count them out just yet...

"combinations of touch-screen, GPS and motion/tilt sensitivity. Apple has provided massive support to developers, as well as a secure environment where buyers can download risk-free for a typical price of 59p (UK price). Apple assures all of the applications, so no viruses, and also controls the hardware, so far fewer glitches. "

OH really?

Apple gave up on it's hold on applets - meaning - VIRUS galore.

Nokia Comes with Music just kicks iTunes arse out of the water. It offers UNLIMITED, NO-DRM (despite what Apple Fanboys are crying about.) for a year FREE.

You know, you can pay your 59p and I'll take my LEGALLY free music.

And about GPS/Tilt sensor? Nokia's been touting them for far longer. Refer to N95 and the like.

And about TOUCH SCREEN, sorry to burst your bubble, but Nokia came out with the first touch screen first, even though it wasn't well received, Nokia IS, WAS, AND WILL BE first.

And I don't think all that cracking cases that OCCUR in IPHONES with DEVASTATING frequency constituteds as quality. Refer to Nokia - look at it's massive sales volume, and the % of 'un'-quality phones.

It'll be out this year. People have already gotten their mitts on it, and as far as I can see, most people agree that Apple has been beaten badly by Nokia's FIRST attempt. A higher end touch screen phone by Nokia will be out next year, that much is known.

The phone(5800) comes bundled with a proximity sensor that disables the display when you put it close to your face. One more thing of note - this sensor had been around long before the "One and Only" arrived last July.

Note : 5800 has 3 input modes, a Full QWERTY board, a mini QWERTY board, and a T9 board displayable on screen. No other phones achieves this, and *GASP* it actually allows for one handed operation, unlike the inferior iPhone.

S60 is an incredibly solid platform which has been out for years. I had the chance to go hands on with the 5800, and it handles, at several times, faster than the iPhone.

Want to listen to music while updating your email account and looking at your gallery? S60 does that. As far as my time on the iPhone told me, the iPhone can't.

S60 has an incredibly HUGE base of applications. What Apple has, probably has been out for symbian long ago. Remember, tilt isn't that special, nor is a touch screen.

SO suck on your thumbs, and cry in shame, Apple fanboys/fangirls.

one word - ORIGINALITY ...who do you think came up with the concept of full touch screen phones????Nokia?? well no it was Apple.and remmember iphone is apple's first mobile phone while tube is 387'd or somethink like that a mobile company thousands of phones old is copying????

and if you call people apple fanboys'girls there is something in a company which ultimately people like they're not paid to be apple fans does anyone knows a nokia fan???a guy who would debate 100's of others to proove nokia's best.i think there are none only apple got fans because only apple deserves

i bought an iphone 2g ,it was fun for a week then my nokia 6300 that was swapped out (2 year warrantee )arrived back , i handed the iphone to my dear wife and am very happy to have it back , i love that 6300 . i am an apple authorized reseller . i am waiting to see what nokia brings out next, if the iphone 3g hardware was specked like the omnia i would go for it, i just cant bring myself to buy thes iphone 3g right now , i think it is a rip.

Mr Turner,
The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is told to be available for customers this year (within next 3-4 months), not next year like you wrote.

I think Nokia is a loser in SmartPhone. Iphone or G1 will be in the final. (RIM will be bought soon).

yo the 5800 kills the iphone the iphone is only popular cause its 1st good touch phone that apple made. if nokia decides to bring out more touch phones apple will be killed and all the apple users will come to nokia
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Well, I have been using some tens of Nokia phones over the last ten years. I have also tried Samsung etc. Even if iPhone is not a perfect phone, I really consider to throw away my Nokias and go to iPhone. Some of my friends has been using iPhone 3G and they are more than happy.

fucking iphone wannnabes...go n buy 1 u fuking bitches!

Seriously, i've had an N95 for nearly 2 years now, that phone on its own is MILES better than the iphone, there is nothing the iphone can do that the n95 can't, but a lot the iphone can't do that the n95 can. Its not even a comparison.

The iphone is good for people who don't really understand what it is to have a open operating system, whch can do pretty much anything.

Yes its easy to use (i used to have one) and it is quite nice, but i had to get rid of mine, as it just couldn't do what my n95 could. The 5800 is the next upgrade for myself, it looks nicer than the iphone, has better specs, can do more, is lighter, has better battery, has better everything and with a couple of firmware upgrades will have a better browser and be a lot faster.

Iphone need to do a lot to get there phones up to date, the iphone reminds me of the wii, innovotive and popular but not as good as its rivals.

Lame arguments, lame people. So Nokia offers free music for a year?... look BEYOND the hyped up "free" BS (nothing is EVER free, get a grip!), so put that "free" crap aside and pretend they don't offer it... yeah, thought so... CRAP nokia!!

I had Nokias all my life until I bought the iPhone and I am a very happy convert! My last Nokia was the N95 and I wouldn't even recommend it as a paper weight, it was apallingly bad - don't even get me started on how long it took to put music on it!

The iPhone has been an absolute pleasure to use, and I am by no means brainwashed - it's the first Apple product I've ever owned and I was fully aware of the negative reviews as well as the positive before I bought it.

This new Nokia might have a better camera, but I've learnt my lesson from buying phones with good cameras - the phones have always been a let down. I now use my digital camera as my camera and my phone as my phone and I'm much happier with that arrangement!!

I've been using Nokia all my life and i'm very,very satisfied with their phones.Tube is not exception,it's a really good phone with great touch-screen etc. But i can't say nothing bad about Apple productions,I have Ipod Nano 4th Gen myself,but i think that Apple is good at MAC and IPOD's,while Nokia are good at phone bussiness. P.S.:Iphone wannabes that are telling that Iphone has a great GPS,I have to dissapoint you,because it's using internet connection only,not GPS Module.Thanks for attention.No Offence

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The funny thing is, Nokia never planned the 5800 to be an iPhone beater.. But if you think it has, well I wonder what the REAL iPhone beater will be like?

I have a 5800, I went for it becasue it was free, on a £15 contract with orange for 18 months. Get 200mins, unlimited texts and 500mb browsing. I've also discovered that nokia are also making somehting like Apple's App store, so I can't wait for that. I've found plenty of apps for the 5800 and I can only expect more as its popularity grows. I've found the phone really good at everything, however the iPhone's touchscreen beats the 5800's hands down, this is mainly due to the resistive screen that nokia have chosen to use (wikapedia "resistive screens").

Apple's app store is ace, as are all of the apps that you can get. I really like the interface using two fingers to guide your way around programs is certainly innovative and must be the way forward. Like the computer keyboard, where we utilise all fingers to get the best results this is definately the way forward in touchscreens, but its down to a matter of oppinion. I decided not to go for one because I didn't fancy paying for the iPhone, when the best I could get a contract for is £30 with the phone free. My only problem with it is that you're paying for the brand, despite it being an amazing brand, you really are paying for it.

The android, is utterlly rubbish. It really doesn't compare to the iPhone or the 5800. Fair enough it's made by google, but lets be serious, it's interface has been copied from the iPhone and it hardly looks good. Previous versions of HTC Pocket PC/Mobiles with Windows Mobile look and work a lot better than this.

This review has clearly been written by an iPhone hater, totaly unbiased.

Stop arguing. Anything designed by Apple is better than Nokia phones:

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Iphone is iphone and nokia 5800 is nokia 5800, what I want to say is they have different issues and quality.... OK... PEACE...

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i've been an iphone follower since the early 2g days and like all sheep, thought this was the be all and end all for 'smart phone capabilities' after switching from my old blackberry.

Boy was I wrong! After having to take my 3g into repairs countless of times earlier this year(for OS failure which apple's techies could not find, but admit there was a fault), I pretty much was fed up with it. The apps are great if you are a 10yr old who's just come to a candy store, but people who are able to afford a phone, are not. You pretty much get bored of apps after 3mths and realize you've just wasted more money on apps then you've probably paid for your monthly phone bills.

Also apple should invest in their customer service staff instead of the phone or its apps coz they are truly lacking, especially when people pay top dollar for a brick.

I've just recently bought the 5800(coming to my 2nd month) and so far its winning in all aspects as an all-rounded smart phone. It might not have all the apps like the iphone and its OS could do wih a bit of a tweak, but it comes on top for everything else. Like all Nokia products, there'll be time to evolve. As for apple's iphone, it's been in the market for a while now...and apart from 2g going to 3 it's still pretty much a brick. There's a whole list of + and - for each phone and weighing my options, the 5800 came up top.

For people who support the iphone...pls explain yourself clearly, because some of the explanations to 'why iphone is better', is not going to win any new people contemplating to buy an iphone(and someone saying Nokia sucks as an argument is not going to win me over either)

my over-all opinion:

Nokia 5800 came out best with a price to match. I've just got into OVI and I reckon with time, it will follow suit with iphones app store. Unless iphone came up with something like a mini-iphone(not the cheap china version)or introduce capabilites of what a 'smart' phone is meant to have, I will never go back

Try setting your IMAP email on the 5800. It will pull your email left on server from years ago and kill your phone. There are no ways to set for recent mail. That's how much Symbian sucks. Apple software is way superior. Also try browsing with the 5800 and you'll see the frustration.

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That's how much Symbian sucks. Apple software is way superior. Also try browsing with the 5800 and you'll see the frustration.

There's absolutely nothing frustrating about browsing on the 5800. It's fast, displays web pages perfectly because of the high resolution screen and it has 'flash' support which the iPhone doesn't, so it's a far superior mobile browsing experience.

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The iphone doesnt suck..its pretty good..but id give a better review abt the 5800 ..its nokia after all...so it doesnt lack any features...and ya cant compare the two in context of the multi touch especially because of the iphone price..i wouldnt pay so much for something like the iphone that looks so obsolete except for the touch screen...the 5800 is one of the best fones ive ever had...

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But my sister has one of the Nokia 5800 and i must say it has some really cool features.

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